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'''Magic''' is a 2.3.5 temperament that equates a stack of five 5/4 major thirds to one 3/1. It also equates 25/24 to 128/125, shrinking the difference between 5/4 and 6/5. | '''Magic''' (19 & 22) is a 2.3.5 temperament that equates a stack of five 5/4 major thirds to one 3/1. It also equates 25/24 to 128/125, shrinking the difference between 5/4 and 6/5. It is a 3-cluster temperament, as indicated by the edo join (22 - 19 = 3). | ||
== Interval chain == | |||
In the following table, odd harmonics 1–15 and their inverses are in '''bold'''. | |||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | |||
|- | |||
! # | |||
! Cents* | |||
! Approximate ratios | |||
|- | |||
| 0 | |||
| 0.0 | |||
| '''1/1''' | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 380.5 | |||
| '''5/4''' | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 760.9 | |||
| 14/9 | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 1141.4 | |||
| 27/14, 31/16 | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 321.8 | |||
| 6/5, 29/24 | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 702.3 | |||
| '''3/2''' | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 1082.7 | |||
| '''15/8''', 28/15 | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 263.2 | |||
| 7/6 | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 643.7 | |||
| 36/25 | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 1024.1 | |||
| 9/5, 29/16 | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 204.6 | |||
| '''9/8''' | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 585.0 | |||
| 7/5 | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 965.5 | |||
| '''7/4''' | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 145.9 | |||
| 35/32 | |||
|} | |||
<nowiki/>* In 7-limit CWE tuning | |||
== Extensions == | == Extensions == | ||
Magic divides ~16/15 in half ( | Magic divides ~16/15 in half (into two 25/24's), so it easily extends to prime 31 (at +3 generators) by tempering out S31 {{=}} 961/960. Since in 7-limit Magic, the 16/15 is also a 15/14, we can also extend 2.3.5.7.31 Magic to add prime 29 (at +9 generators) by equating 16/15 to 31/29. | ||
{{Adv|This can be seen from the following [[S-expression]] for the Magic comma:}} | |||
3125/3072 | |||
= (25/24)^2/(16/15) | |||
= (25/24)*(25/24)/(32/31*31/30) | |||
= (25/24)S25*S26*S27*S28*S29*S30/(32/31) | |||
= (S25*S26*S27*S28*S29*S30)^2*S31 | |||
= (S15*S28*S29*S30)^2*S31 | |||
{{Adv|[[canonical extension|structurally inducing]] the above 2.3.5.7.29.31 extension.}} | |||
== Scales == | |||
{{Wip}} | |||
=== MOS scales === | |||
Because three generators just barely fall short of an octave, the [[MOS]] scales generated by Magic are quite commatic. The Magic Diesis (a small step simultaneously representing 25/24, 28/27, 36/35, and 128/125) is the s step of all MOS scales up to the 22-form | |||
==== 7-form ==== | |||
[[File:22edo Magic Cadence.png|thumb|An example of the Magic Cadence (III - I) in 22edo, written in SATB format with native fifths notation.]] | |||
The 7-note Magic scale has the pattern 3L 4s, sometimes called [[Mosh]], with a large step of 6/5. The disparity in size between the two types of steps grants a quality to stepwise melodies that some find to sound awkward or lurching; while some composers may prefer or intend such a sound, those who do not are cautioned to avoid long stepwise runs for fear of creating an aimless and chromatic-sounding melodic core. | |||
The 4:5:6 triad can be found on the tonic in two of the modes: LsLsLss and LsLssLs; these modes place the triad on degrees 1, 3, and 4. Generalizing from this, we can see that the other main type of triad that occurs on these degrees is 1/1 - 5/4 - 9/7, with an additional 1/1 - 16/15 - 9/7 triad in the ssLsLsL mode. | |||
The LsLsLss mode has the clearest utility, with a clear cadence from the III chord to the I chord; we may consider this motion to be Magic temperament's analog to the Perfect Cadence from [[Meantone]][7]. This cadence creates contrary motion, with the 6 and 5 of the III chord resolving respectively to the 8 and 4 of the I chord, and the 3 sustained between both chords creates a strong sense of continuity. | |||
The LsLssLs mode contains an inverse version of this cadence, which can be seen as a Magic analog to Meantone's Plagal Cadence. | |||
=== Other scale forms === | |||
Due to the juxtaposition of the Magic Diesis against significantly larger step sizes, it is often desirable to use a non-MOS structure in Magic, such as [[Blackdye]] or the [[5-odd-limit|5-odd Diamond]]. | |||
== List of tunings == | |||
=== EDO patent vals === | |||
The following patent vals support 2.3.5 Magic. Vals that are contorted in 2.3.5 are not included. | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | |||
! Edo | |||
!Extension to 7|| Generator || Fifth | |||
|- | |||
||3 | |||
| ||400.000||800.000 | |||
|- | |||
||25 | |||
| ||384.000||720.000 | |||
|- | |||
||22 | |||
|19 & 22||381.818||709.091 | |||
|- | |||
||107 | |||
| ||381.308||706.542 | |||
|- | |||
||85 | |||
|19 & 22||381.176||705.882 | |||
|- | |||
||63 | |||
|19 & 22||380.952||704.762 | |||
|- | |||
||104 | |||
| ||380.769||703.846 | |||
|- | |||
||41 | |||
|19 & 22||380.488||702.439 | |||
|- | |||
||60 | |||
|19 & 22||380.000||700.000 | |||
|- | |||
||79 | |||
| ||379.747||698.734 | |||
|- | |||
||19 | |||
|19 & 22||378.947||694.737 | |||
|- | |||
||35 | |||
| ||377.143||685.714 | |||
|- | |||
||16 | |||
| ||375.000||675.000 | |||
|} | |||
=== Target-tunings === | |||
The following are some examples of useful target tunings available in Magic temperament. | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
!Just interval | |||
!Comma fraction | |||
!Generator | |||
!Fifth | |||
|- | |||
|5/4 | |||
|0-comma | |||
|386.314 | |||
|731.569 | |||
|- | |||
|15/8 | |||
|1/6-comma | |||
|381.378 | |||
|706.891 | |||
|- | |||
|3/2 | |||
|1/5-comma | |||
|380.391 | |||
|701.955 | |||
|- | |||
|9/5 | |||
|2/9-comma | |||
|379.733 | |||
|698.665 | |||
|- | |||
|5/3 | |||
|1/4-comma | |||
|378.910 | |||
|1694.552 | |||
|- | |||
|25/24 | |||
|1/3-comma | |||
|376.443 | |||
|682.213 | |||
|} | |||
{{cat|Temperaments}}{{Navbox regtemp}} | {{cat|Temperaments}}{{Navbox regtemp}} | ||
Latest revision as of 18:22, 13 April 2026
| Magic |
225/224, 245/243 (7-limit)
9-odd-limit: 5.9¢
9-odd-limit: 13 notes
Magic (19 & 22) is a 2.3.5 temperament that equates a stack of five 5/4 major thirds to one 3/1. It also equates 25/24 to 128/125, shrinking the difference between 5/4 and 6/5. It is a 3-cluster temperament, as indicated by the edo join (22 - 19 = 3).
Interval chain
In the following table, odd harmonics 1–15 and their inverses are in bold.
| # | Cents* | Approximate ratios |
|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.0 | 1/1 |
| 1 | 380.5 | 5/4 |
| 2 | 760.9 | 14/9 |
| 3 | 1141.4 | 27/14, 31/16 |
| 4 | 321.8 | 6/5, 29/24 |
| 5 | 702.3 | 3/2 |
| 6 | 1082.7 | 15/8, 28/15 |
| 7 | 263.2 | 7/6 |
| 8 | 643.7 | 36/25 |
| 9 | 1024.1 | 9/5, 29/16 |
| 10 | 204.6 | 9/8 |
| 11 | 585.0 | 7/5 |
| 12 | 965.5 | 7/4 |
| 13 | 145.9 | 35/32 |
* In 7-limit CWE tuning
Extensions
Magic divides ~16/15 in half (into two 25/24's), so it easily extends to prime 31 (at +3 generators) by tempering out S31 = 961/960. Since in 7-limit Magic, the 16/15 is also a 15/14, we can also extend 2.3.5.7.31 Magic to add prime 29 (at +9 generators) by equating 16/15 to 31/29.
This can be seen from the following S-expression for the Magic comma:
3125/3072 = (25/24)^2/(16/15) = (25/24)*(25/24)/(32/31*31/30) = (25/24)S25*S26*S27*S28*S29*S30/(32/31) = (S25*S26*S27*S28*S29*S30)^2*S31 = (S15*S28*S29*S30)^2*S31
structurally inducing the above 2.3.5.7.29.31 extension.
Scales
MOS scales
Because three generators just barely fall short of an octave, the MOS scales generated by Magic are quite commatic. The Magic Diesis (a small step simultaneously representing 25/24, 28/27, 36/35, and 128/125) is the s step of all MOS scales up to the 22-form
7-form

The 7-note Magic scale has the pattern 3L 4s, sometimes called Mosh, with a large step of 6/5. The disparity in size between the two types of steps grants a quality to stepwise melodies that some find to sound awkward or lurching; while some composers may prefer or intend such a sound, those who do not are cautioned to avoid long stepwise runs for fear of creating an aimless and chromatic-sounding melodic core.
The 4:5:6 triad can be found on the tonic in two of the modes: LsLsLss and LsLssLs; these modes place the triad on degrees 1, 3, and 4. Generalizing from this, we can see that the other main type of triad that occurs on these degrees is 1/1 - 5/4 - 9/7, with an additional 1/1 - 16/15 - 9/7 triad in the ssLsLsL mode.
The LsLsLss mode has the clearest utility, with a clear cadence from the III chord to the I chord; we may consider this motion to be Magic temperament's analog to the Perfect Cadence from Meantone[7]. This cadence creates contrary motion, with the 6 and 5 of the III chord resolving respectively to the 8 and 4 of the I chord, and the 3 sustained between both chords creates a strong sense of continuity.
The LsLssLs mode contains an inverse version of this cadence, which can be seen as a Magic analog to Meantone's Plagal Cadence.
Other scale forms
Due to the juxtaposition of the Magic Diesis against significantly larger step sizes, it is often desirable to use a non-MOS structure in Magic, such as Blackdye or the 5-odd Diamond.
List of tunings
EDO patent vals
The following patent vals support 2.3.5 Magic. Vals that are contorted in 2.3.5 are not included.
| Edo | Extension to 7 | Generator | Fifth |
|---|---|---|---|
| 3 | 400.000 | 800.000 | |
| 25 | 384.000 | 720.000 | |
| 22 | 19 & 22 | 381.818 | 709.091 |
| 107 | 381.308 | 706.542 | |
| 85 | 19 & 22 | 381.176 | 705.882 |
| 63 | 19 & 22 | 380.952 | 704.762 |
| 104 | 380.769 | 703.846 | |
| 41 | 19 & 22 | 380.488 | 702.439 |
| 60 | 19 & 22 | 380.000 | 700.000 |
| 79 | 379.747 | 698.734 | |
| 19 | 19 & 22 | 378.947 | 694.737 |
| 35 | 377.143 | 685.714 | |
| 16 | 375.000 | 675.000 |
Target-tunings
The following are some examples of useful target tunings available in Magic temperament.
| Just interval | Comma fraction | Generator | Fifth |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5/4 | 0-comma | 386.314 | 731.569 |
| 15/8 | 1/6-comma | 381.378 | 706.891 |
| 3/2 | 1/5-comma | 380.391 | 701.955 |
| 9/5 | 2/9-comma | 379.733 | 698.665 |
| 5/3 | 1/4-comma | 378.910 | 1694.552 |
| 25/24 | 1/3-comma | 376.443 | 682.213 |
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| Rank-2 | |
| Acot | Blackwood (1/5-octave) • Whitewood (1/7-octave) • Compton (1/12-octave) |
| Monocot | Meantone • Schismic • Gentle-fifth temperaments • Archy |
| Complexity 2 | Diaschismic (diploid monocot) • Pajara (diploid monocot) • Injera (diploid monocot) • Rastmatic (dicot) • Mohajira (dicot) • Intertridecimal (dicot) • Interseptimal (alpha-dicot) |
| Complexity 3 | Augmented (triploid) • Misty (triploid) • Slendric (tricot) • Porcupine (omega-tricot) |
| Complexity 4 | Diminished (tetraploid) • Tetracot (tetracot) • Buzzard (alpha-tetracot) • Squares (beta-tetracot) • Negri (omega-tetracot) |
| Complexity 5-6 | Magic (alpha-pentacot) • Amity (gamma-pentacot) • Kleismic (alpha-hexacot) • Miracle (hexacot) |
| Higher complexity | Orwell (alpha-heptacot) • Sensi (beta-heptacot) • Octacot (octacot) • Wurschmidt (beta-octacot) • Valentine (enneacot) • Ammonite (epsilon-enneacot) • Myna (beta-decacot) • Ennealimmal (enneaploid dicot) |
| Straddle-3 | A-Team (alter-tricot) • Machine (alter-monocot) |
| No-3 | Mabilic (alpha-triseph) • Orgone (trimech) • Didacus (diseph) |
| No-octaves | Sensamagic (monogem) |
| Exotemperaments | Dicot • Mavila • Father |
| Higher-rank | |
| Rank-3 | Hemifamity • Marvel • Parapyth |
