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'''Diaschismic''', | '''Diaschismic''', [10 & 12], is the temperament (usually 2.3.5.17) generated by a half-octave representing 45/32~17/12~24/17~64/45 and a semitone representing 135/128~18/17~17/16~16/15, which is tuned to around 705 cents. 3/2 is a period plus a generator; 5/4 is a period minus two generators. (Note that 3/2 can be taken as the generator instead of 17/16.) In other words, diaschismic equates a stack of two 5/4's and two 9/8's to the octave; equivalently, it equates a stack of one 5/4 and two 16/15's to the half-octave. | ||
[[12edo]] and [[22edo]] are notable Diaschismic tunings. Some tunings of Diaschismic that are more accurate in the 5-limit are [[34edo]] and [[46edo]]. | [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] are notable Diaschismic tunings. Some tunings of Diaschismic that are more accurate in the 5-limit are [[34edo]] and [[46edo]]. | ||
== Extensions == | == Extensions == | ||
==== Archytas (10 & 12) (Pajara) ==== | |||
''Main article: [[Pajara]]'' | |||
The edo join [10 & 12] given above represents the extension pajara, which tempers out 64/63 such that a sharpened generator of about 110 cents is also 15/14 and stacks twice to a flatly tuned 8/7. The semioctave is interpreted as 7/5 and 10/7. This is a particularly common practical 7-limit interpretation of diaschismic supported by most of the small diaschismic edos, and especially 22edo. | |||
Further extensions of Pajara are discussed on its own page. | |||
==== Aberschismic (46 & 58) ==== | |||
A more accurate but complex option is to interpret diaschismic as a hemifamity temperament. Here, the comma 81/80 represented by six generators is also 64/63 and half of 50/49, so that 8/7 is a comma above 9/8 (being itself a comma above 10/9).. | |||
In the 11-limit, an obvious mapping is to treat the neogothic major third 81/64 as 14/11, as in hemifamity; this sets 11/8 to be offset from the tritone by two commas. As a result, 11/9 is a comma sharp of 6/5. 16/13 is a further comma sharp. | |||
Alternatively, another mapping offsets 11 from the fourth by two commas instead, finding 13 at 8 generators up and setting the tritone to 91/64. | |||
Only the mappings for the 2.3.5.7.17 group will be given here. | |||
== Generator chain == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
! colspan="5" |Period 1 | |||
! colspan="5" |Period 2 | |||
|- | |||
! colspan="3" |Up | |||
! colspan="2" |Down | |||
! colspan="3" |Up | |||
! colspan="2" |Down | |||
|- | |||
!# | |||
!Cents | |||
!JI | |||
!Cents | |||
!JI | |||
!# | |||
!Cents | |||
!JI | |||
!Cents | |||
!JI | |||
|- | |||
|0 | |||
|0 | |||
|1/1 | |||
|600 | |||
|24/17, 64/45 | |||
|0 | |||
|600 | |||
|17/12, 45/32 | |||
|1200 | |||
|2/1 | |||
|- | |||
|1 | |||
|104 | |||
|18/17, 17/16, 16/15 | |||
|496 | |||
|4/3 | |||
|1 | |||
|704 | |||
|3/2 | |||
|1096 | |||
|15/8, 32/17, 17/9 | |||
|- | |||
|2 | |||
|208 | |||
|9/8 | |||
|392 | |||
|5/4 | |||
|2 | |||
|808 | |||
|8/5 | |||
|992 | |||
|16/9 | |||
|- | |||
|3 | |||
|312 | |||
|6/5 | |||
|288 | |||
|32/27 | |||
|3 | |||
|912 | |||
|27/16 | |||
|888 | |||
|5/3 | |||
|- | |||
|4 | |||
|416 | |||
|81/64 | |||
|184 | |||
|10/9 | |||
|4 | |||
|1016 | |||
|9/5 | |||
|784 | |||
|128/81 | |||
|- | |||
|5 | |||
|520 | |||
|27/20 | |||
|80 | |||
|21/20, 25/24 | |||
|5 | |||
|1120 | |||
|40/21, 48/25 | |||
|680 | |||
|40/27 | |||
|- | |||
|6 | |||
|24 | |||
|81/80, 64/63 | |||
|576 | |||
|7/5 | |||
|6 | |||
|624 | |||
|10/7 | |||
|1176 | |||
|63/32, 160/81 | |||
|- | |||
|7 | |||
|128 | |||
|27/25, 15/14 | |||
|472 | |||
|21/16 | |||
|7 | |||
|728 | |||
|32/21 | |||
|1072 | |||
|50/27, 28/15 | |||
|- | |||
|8 | |||
|232 | |||
|8/7 | |||
|368 | |||
|21/17 | |||
|8 | |||
|832 | |||
|34/21 | |||
|968 | |||
|7/4 | |||
|- | |||
|9 | |||
|336 | |||
|17/14 | |||
|264 | |||
|7/6 | |||
|9 | |||
|936 | |||
|12/7 | |||
|864 | |||
|28/17 | |||
|- | |||
|10 | |||
|440 | |||
|9/7 | |||
|160 | |||
|35/32 | |||
|10 | |||
|1040 | |||
|51/28 | |||
|760 | |||
|14/9 | |||
|} | |||
== List of patent vals == | == List of patent vals == | ||
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{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Edo!!Generator (3/2) | !Edo | ||
!Extension!!Generator (3/2) | |||
|- | |- | ||
|2||600.000 | |2 | ||
| ||600.000 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|14||685.714 | |14 | ||
| ||685.714 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|12||700.000 | |12 | ||
|Pajara, Septimal diaschismic||700.000 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|70||702.857 | |70 | ||
|Septimal diaschismic||702.857 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|58||703.448 | |58 | ||
|Septimal diaschismic||703.448 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|46||704.348 | |46 | ||
|Septimal diaschismic (alternate 11 mapping)||704.348 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|126||704.762 | |126 | ||
|(alternate 11 mapping)||704.762 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|80||705.000 | |80 | ||
|(alternate 11 mapping)||705.000 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|114||705.263 | |114 | ||
| ||705.263 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|148||705.405 | |148 | ||
| ||705.405 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|34||705.882 | |34 | ||
|Septimal diaschismic (alternate 11 mapping)||705.882 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|124||706.452 | |124 | ||
| ||706.452 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|90||706.667 | |90 | ||
| ||706.667 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|56||707.143 | |56 | ||
| ||707.143 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|78||707.692 | |78 | ||
| ||707.692 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|22||709.091 | |22 | ||
|Pajara||709.091 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|54||711.111 | |54 | ||
|Pajara||711.111 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|32||712.500 | |32 | ||
|Pajara||712.500 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|10||720.000 | |10 | ||
|Pajara||720.000 | |||
|} | |} | ||
{{Navbox regtemp}} | {{Navbox regtemp}} | ||
{{Cat|temperaments}} | {{Cat|temperaments}} | ||
Revision as of 00:25, 29 March 2026
Diaschismic, [10 & 12], is the temperament (usually 2.3.5.17) generated by a half-octave representing 45/32~17/12~24/17~64/45 and a semitone representing 135/128~18/17~17/16~16/15, which is tuned to around 705 cents. 3/2 is a period plus a generator; 5/4 is a period minus two generators. (Note that 3/2 can be taken as the generator instead of 17/16.) In other words, diaschismic equates a stack of two 5/4's and two 9/8's to the octave; equivalently, it equates a stack of one 5/4 and two 16/15's to the half-octave.
12edo and 22edo are notable Diaschismic tunings. Some tunings of Diaschismic that are more accurate in the 5-limit are 34edo and 46edo.
Extensions
Archytas (10 & 12) (Pajara)
Main article: Pajara
The edo join [10 & 12] given above represents the extension pajara, which tempers out 64/63 such that a sharpened generator of about 110 cents is also 15/14 and stacks twice to a flatly tuned 8/7. The semioctave is interpreted as 7/5 and 10/7. This is a particularly common practical 7-limit interpretation of diaschismic supported by most of the small diaschismic edos, and especially 22edo.
Further extensions of Pajara are discussed on its own page.
Aberschismic (46 & 58)
A more accurate but complex option is to interpret diaschismic as a hemifamity temperament. Here, the comma 81/80 represented by six generators is also 64/63 and half of 50/49, so that 8/7 is a comma above 9/8 (being itself a comma above 10/9)..
In the 11-limit, an obvious mapping is to treat the neogothic major third 81/64 as 14/11, as in hemifamity; this sets 11/8 to be offset from the tritone by two commas. As a result, 11/9 is a comma sharp of 6/5. 16/13 is a further comma sharp.
Alternatively, another mapping offsets 11 from the fourth by two commas instead, finding 13 at 8 generators up and setting the tritone to 91/64.
Only the mappings for the 2.3.5.7.17 group will be given here.
Generator chain
| Period 1 | Period 2 | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Up | Down | Up | Down | ||||||
| # | Cents | JI | Cents | JI | # | Cents | JI | Cents | JI |
| 0 | 0 | 1/1 | 600 | 24/17, 64/45 | 0 | 600 | 17/12, 45/32 | 1200 | 2/1 |
| 1 | 104 | 18/17, 17/16, 16/15 | 496 | 4/3 | 1 | 704 | 3/2 | 1096 | 15/8, 32/17, 17/9 |
| 2 | 208 | 9/8 | 392 | 5/4 | 2 | 808 | 8/5 | 992 | 16/9 |
| 3 | 312 | 6/5 | 288 | 32/27 | 3 | 912 | 27/16 | 888 | 5/3 |
| 4 | 416 | 81/64 | 184 | 10/9 | 4 | 1016 | 9/5 | 784 | 128/81 |
| 5 | 520 | 27/20 | 80 | 21/20, 25/24 | 5 | 1120 | 40/21, 48/25 | 680 | 40/27 |
| 6 | 24 | 81/80, 64/63 | 576 | 7/5 | 6 | 624 | 10/7 | 1176 | 63/32, 160/81 |
| 7 | 128 | 27/25, 15/14 | 472 | 21/16 | 7 | 728 | 32/21 | 1072 | 50/27, 28/15 |
| 8 | 232 | 8/7 | 368 | 21/17 | 8 | 832 | 34/21 | 968 | 7/4 |
| 9 | 336 | 17/14 | 264 | 7/6 | 9 | 936 | 12/7 | 864 | 28/17 |
| 10 | 440 | 9/7 | 160 | 35/32 | 10 | 1040 | 51/28 | 760 | 14/9 |
List of patent vals
The following patent vals support 2.3.5 Diaschismic, not including vals contorted in 2.3.5.
| Edo | Extension | Generator (3/2) |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | 600.000 | |
| 14 | 685.714 | |
| 12 | Pajara, Septimal diaschismic | 700.000 |
| 70 | Septimal diaschismic | 702.857 |
| 58 | Septimal diaschismic | 703.448 |
| 46 | Septimal diaschismic (alternate 11 mapping) | 704.348 |
| 126 | (alternate 11 mapping) | 704.762 |
| 80 | (alternate 11 mapping) | 705.000 |
| 114 | 705.263 | |
| 148 | 705.405 | |
| 34 | Septimal diaschismic (alternate 11 mapping) | 705.882 |
| 124 | 706.452 | |
| 90 | 706.667 | |
| 56 | 707.143 | |
| 78 | 707.692 | |
| 22 | Pajara | 709.091 |
| 54 | Pajara | 711.111 |
| 32 | Pajara | 712.500 |
| 10 | Pajara | 720.000 |
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| Rank-2 | |
| Acot | Blackwood (1/5-octave) • Whitewood (1/7-octave) • Compton (1/12-octave) |
| Monocot | Meantone • Schismic • Leapday • Archy |
| Complexity 2 | Diaschismic (diploid monocot) • Pajara (diploid monocot) • Injera (diploid monocot) • Rastmatic (dicot) • Mohajira (dicot) • Intertridecimal (dicot) • Interseptimal (alpha-dicot) |
| Complexity 3 | Augmented (triploid) • Misty (triploid) • Slendric (tricot) • Porcupine (omega-tricot) |
| Complexity 4 | Diminished (tetraploid) • Tetracot (tetracot) • Buzzard (alpha-tetracot) • Squares (beta-tetracot) • Negri (omega-tetracot) |
| Complexity 5-6 | Magic (alpha-pentacot) • Amity (gamma-pentacot) • Kleismic (alpha-hexacot) • Miracle (hexacot) |
| Higher complexity | Orwell (alpha-heptacot) • Sensi (beta-heptacot) • Octacot (octacot) • Wurschmidt (beta-octacot) • Valentine (enneacot) • Ammonite (epsilon-enneacot) • Myna (beta-decacot) • Ennealimmal (enneaploid dicot) |
| Straddle-3 | A-Team (alter-tricot) • Machine (alter-monocot) |
| No-3 | Trismegistus (alpha-triseph) • Orgone (trimech) • Didacus (diseph) |
| No-octaves | Sensamagic (monogem) |
| Exotemperament | Dicot • Mavila • Father |
| Higher-rank | |
| Rank-3 | Hemifamity • Marvel • Parapyth |
