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'''Intergan''' is a set of temperaments related to 24edo semiquartal. The term is short for "interseptimal Ganassi," after 12edo's 2.3.17.19 Ganassi temperament. It seeks to cover all of the notable concordances generated by a meantone-range semifourth.
'''Intergan''' is a set of temperaments related to 24edo semiquartal. The term is short for "interseptimal Ganassi," after 12edo's 2.3.17.19 Ganassi temperament. It seeks to cover all of the notable concordances generated by a meantone-range semifourth.


* The most basic version is 2.3.11.13/5.17.19 5&24. 4/3 is split into two semifourths most simply represented by 15/13, and 22/17 is equated to 13/10 and 22/19 is equated to 15/13. It contains the 16:19:22 +1+1 sub-diminished triad.
* The most basic version is 2.3.11.13/5.17.19 5&24. 4/3 is split into two semifourths most simply represented by 15/13, and 22/17 is equated to 13/10 and 22/19 is equated to 15/13. It features the remarkably simple 10:13:15 ultramajor triad and its retroversion found in Island temperaments, along with the 16:19:22 +1+1 sub-diminished triad and 16:19:24:27 +3+5+3 minor add6 tetrad. 11:12:17:19 is present, although this adding 13, 14, or 15 to the subgroup will significantly improve its usefulness.
* Tempering out 81/80 is somewhat obvious, resulting in 2.3.5.11.13.17.19 5&24.
* Tempering out 81/80 is somewhat obvious, resulting in 2.3.5.11.13.17.19 5&24.
* Primes 31 and 37 are also obvious to add, equating 37/32 to 22/19 and 37/31 to 19/16, resulting in 2.3.5.11.13.17.19.31.37 5&24. 67edo is roughly optimal due to its very mild meantone fourth being split in half. The 2.31.37 restriction is highly accurate in 43edo.
* Primes 31 and 37 are also obvious to add, equating 37/32 to 22/19 and 37/31 to 19/16, resulting in 2.3.5.11.13.17.19.31.37 5&24. 67edo is roughly optimal due to its very mild meantone fourth being split in half. The 2.31.37 restriction is highly accurate in 43edo.

Revision as of 02:53, 12 July 2026

Intergan is a set of temperaments related to 24edo semiquartal. The term is short for "interseptimal Ganassi," after 12edo's 2.3.17.19 Ganassi temperament. It seeks to cover all of the notable concordances generated by a meantone-range semifourth.

  • The most basic version is 2.3.11.13/5.17.19 5&24. 4/3 is split into two semifourths most simply represented by 15/13, and 22/17 is equated to 13/10 and 22/19 is equated to 15/13. It features the remarkably simple 10:13:15 ultramajor triad and its retroversion found in Island temperaments, along with the 16:19:22 +1+1 sub-diminished triad and 16:19:24:27 +3+5+3 minor add6 tetrad. 11:12:17:19 is present, although this adding 13, 14, or 15 to the subgroup will significantly improve its usefulness.
  • Tempering out 81/80 is somewhat obvious, resulting in 2.3.5.11.13.17.19 5&24.
  • Primes 31 and 37 are also obvious to add, equating 37/32 to 22/19 and 37/31 to 19/16, resulting in 2.3.5.11.13.17.19.31.37 5&24. 67edo is roughly optimal due to its very mild meantone fourth being split in half. The 2.31.37 restriction is highly accurate in 43edo.
  • Primes 7, 23, and 29 are all more difficult to map due to their complexity, although their difficulty is in ascending order. They are more easily reached by splitting the semifourth generator in half in a manner similar to Negri.

Like other important temperaments by User:Ground, it may be understood as a relatively low-complexity rank-3 for greater flexibility. 81/80 is an obvious comma to temper out as seen in the standard rank-2 version, but leaving it in creates a significant amount of generator complexity. With this in mind, rank-3 Intergan is constructed as 2.3.5.11.13.17.19.31.37 5&9&24 with the following comma list:

  • 4/3 / (15/13)^2 = 676/675
  • 22/19 / (15/13) = 286/285
  • 13/10 / (22/17) = 221/220
  • 16/15 / (17/16) = 256/255
  • 37/32 / (15/13) = 481/480
  • 37/31 / (19/16) = 592/589

It seems obvious to add (22/17)^2/(5/3) = 1452/1445, but that's equivalent to adding 81/80, as is 5/4/(19/17)^2 = 1445/1444.

Rank-3 Intergan, 2.3.5.11.13.17.19.31.37 5&9&24 CE tuning; defining primes highlighted, along with the two most likely mappings of 7, 23, and 29
-5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5
-5 482 877 71 466 860 55 449 844 38 433 827
-4 231 626 1020 215 609 1004 198 593 987 182 576
-3 1180 375 769 1164 358 753 1147 342 736 1131 325
-2 929 124 518 913 107 502 896 91 485 880 75
-1 678 1073 267 662 1056 251 645 1040 235 629 1024
0 427 822 16 411 805 0 395 789 1184 378 773
1 176 571 965 160 555 949 144 538 933 127 522
2 1125 320 715 1109 304 698 1093 287 682 1076 271
3 875 69 464 858 53 447 842 36 431 825 20
4 624 1018 213 607 1002 196 591 985 180 574 969
5 373 767 1162 356 751 1145 340 734 1129 323 718

Being so close to 24edo means that 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, and 1/8-octave temperaments are all available. 12edo's remarkable accuracy in 2.3.17.19 provides many ways to temper the subgroup and its extensions, but this requires more effort to produce a temperament that isn't virtually 12edo; Intergan's interseptimals are one option. The rank-3 temperament may be attached to one of numerous often multi-period temperaments in this subgroup to reduce it to rank-2.

  • Third-octave: 121172^-11 = 2057/2048 and (27/17)^3/4 = 19683/19652. The former is called the Blume comma, and it is obscure despite being both accurate and low-complexity. The third-octave version of Intergan is especially useful when adding the elusive prime 29 because 29/23 is 401¢.
  • Quarter-octave: add (19/16)^4/2=130321/131072. This is one of very few useful commas dividing the octave into four equal parts.

The different versions of Intergan may be defined by the sheer number of intervals it maps to the ~19/16 interval: 19/16, 25/21, 31/26, 32/27, 37/31, 44/37, and the otonal semifourth stack 26:31:37:44.