2.5.7 subgroup

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The 2.5.7 subgroup is the subgroup of just intonation consisting of the intervals reachable by stacking 2/1, 5/4, and 7/4, with the exclusion of 3/2 (adding which would result in the full 7-limit).

Notable intervals include:

  • 5/4 (the pental major third)
  • 7/4 (the septimal subminor seventh)
  • 7/5 (the lesser septimal tritone)
  • 10/7 (the greater septimal tritone)
  • 28/25 (the septimal quasi-meantone)
  • 35/32 (the septimal neutral second)
  • 49/40 (a neutral third)

The 2.5.7 subgroup includes the following harmonics below 256: 1, 5, 7, 25, 35, 49, 125, 175, 245.

An especially efficient temperament in 2.5.7 is Didacus, 2.5.7[25 & 31], which is generated by a tempered 28/25 and tempers out 3136/3125, the interval between a stack of two 7/5 tritones and three 5/4 major thirds. Didacus is a 6-form cluster temperament.

31edo is a particularly accurate 2.5.7 system, but 37edo is more accurate for extensions to larger subgroups such as 2.5.7.11.13.

Odd harmonics below 256

1, 5, 7, 25, 35, 49, 125, 175, 245

JI scales

The fundamental 2.5.7 aberrismic scale is 4L2m3s, L = 28/25, m = 35/32, s = 50/49:

  • Achiral: LsmLsLmsL (28/25 8/7 5/4 7/5 10/7 8/5 7/4 25/14 2/1)
  • Right-handed: sLmLsLmsL (50/49 8/7 5/4 7/5 10/7 8/5 7/4 25/14 2/1)
  • Left-handed: LsmLsLmLs (28/25 8/7 5/4 7/5 10/7 8/5 7/4 49/25 2/1)

It sounds like soft citric (4L2s) with aberrismas.

Didacus tempering sets L = m + s. 37edo equates 49/40 to 16/13.

Interval matrices

Achiral

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
LsmLsLmsL 28/25 8/7 5/4 7/5 10/7 8/5 7/4 25/14
smLsLmsLL 50/49 125/112 5/4 125/98 10/7 25/16 625/392 25/14
mLsLmsLLs 35/32 49/40 5/4 7/5 49/32 25/16 7/4 49/25
LsLmsLLsm 28/25 8/7 32/25 7/5 10/7 8/5 224/125 64/35
sLmsLLsmL 50/49 8/7 5/4 125/98 10/7 8/5 80/49 25/14
LmsLLsmLs 28/25 49/40 5/4 7/5 196/125 8/5 7/4 49/25
msLLsmLsL 35/32 125/112 5/4 7/5 10/7 25/16 7/4 25/14
sLLsmLsLm 50/49 8/7 32/25 64/49 10/7 8/5 80/49 64/35
LLsmLsLms 28/25 784/625 32/25 7/5 196/125 8/5 224/125 49/25

Right-handed

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
sLmLsLmsL 50/49 8/7 5/4 7/5 10/7 8/5 7/4 25/14
LmLsLmsLs 28/25 49/40 343/250 7/5 196/125 343/200 7/4 49/25
mLsLmsLsL 35/32 49/40 5/4 7/5 49/32 25/16 7/4 25/14
LsLmsLsLm 28/25 8/7 32/25 7/5 10/7 8/5 80/49 64/35
sLmsLsLmL 50/49 8/7 5/4 125/98 10/7 500/343 80/49 25/14
LmsLsLmLs 28/25 49/40 5/4 7/5 10/7 8/5 7/4 49/25
msLsLmLsL 35/32 125/112 5/4 125/98 10/7 25/16 7/4 25/14
sLsLmLsLm 50/49 8/7 400/343 64/49 10/7 8/5 80/49 64/35
LsLmLsLms 28/25 8/7 32/25 7/5 196/125 8/5 224/125 49/25

Left-handed

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
LsmLsLmLs 28/25 8/7 5/4 7/5 10/7 8/5 7/4 49/25
smLsLmLsL 50/49 125/112 5/4 125/98 10/7 25/16 7/4 25/14
mLsLmLsLs 35/32 49/40 5/4 7/5 49/32 343/200 7/4 49/25
LsLmLsLsm 28/25 8/7 32/25 7/5 196/125 8/5 224/125 64/35
sLmLsLsmL 50/49 8/7 5/4 7/5 10/7 8/5 80/49 25/14
LmLsLsmLs 28/25 49/40 343/250 7/5 196/125 8/5 7/4 49/25
mLsLsmLsL 35/32 49/40 5/4 7/5 10/7 25/16 7/4 25/14
LsLsmLsLm 28/25 8/7 32/25 64/49 10/7 8/5 80/49 64/35
sLsmLsLmL 50/49 8/7 400/343 125/98 10/7 500/343 80/49 25/14

Tempered scales

let L = 28/25
let s = 7/4
L;L;L;L;L;s;
stack()
31@

Temperaments

Common rank-2 temperaments in 2.3.7 (i.e. temperaments that interpret intervals as 2.3.7 JI ratios):

  • Didacus = ​25 & ​31: Best accuracy-simplicity tradeoff.
  • Jubilismic = ​16 & ​22: Less accurate, identifying 7/5 and 10/7. Has citric (4L2s, LLsLLs) MOS scales (L/s = 3/2 in 16edo, L/s = 4/3 in 22edo).