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The ''' | The '''7-limit''' or the '''2.3.5.7 subgroup''' is the subgroup of [[just intonation]] consisting of the intervals reachable by stacking [[2/1]], [[3/2]], [[5/4]], and [[7/4]]. Important subsets of the 7-limit include the [[7-odd-limit]] and [[9-odd-limit]]. | ||
RH zil[14] | Rank-3 subgroups: | ||
* [[5-limit]] | |||
* [[2.3.7 subgroup]] | |||
* [[2.5.7 subgroup]] | |||
* [[3.5.7 subgroup]] | |||
{{Adv|The 7-limit includes the following odd harmonics below 256: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 15, 21, 25, 27, 35, 45, 49, 63, 75, 81, 105, 125, 135, 147, 175, 189, 225, 243, 245.}} | |||
== Temperaments == | |||
Some important rank-2 full 7-limit temperaments: | |||
* [[Superpyth]] | |||
* Septimal [[Porcupine]] | |||
* [[Garibaldi]] | |||
* Septimal [[Meantone]] | |||
* [[Meantone#Extensions|Flattone]] | |||
* [[Pajara]] | |||
* Septimal [[Magic]] | |||
* [[Mothra]] | |||
* [[Rodan]] | |||
* [[Valentine]] | |||
* [[Orwell]] | |||
* [[Augene]] | |||
* [[Blackwood]] | |||
* [[Sensi]] | |||
The most important rank-3 full 7-limit temperaments are | |||
* [[Aberschismic]] ({{e|41}} & {{e|46}} & {{e|53}}): equates the 2.3.5 and 2.3.7 formal commas, 81/80 and 64/63; medium-high accuracy. | |||
* [[Marvel]] ({{e|19}} & {{e|22}} & {{e|41}}): equates 25/16 and 14/9; medium accuracy. | |||
== 7-limit interval qualities == | |||
The 7-limit thirds, in order of stability / consonance in triads (from most to least consonant), are 5/4, 7/6, 6/5, 9/7. Note that 7-limit L/MCJI offers four distinct interval qualities, whereas 12edo and simpler tuning systems tend to offer only two. The mapping of 12edo's interval qualities to the 7-limit's is best understood by considering each 12edo interval as "splitting" into two distinct 7-limit intervals, rather than the alternative approach of retaining 12edo's interval qualities and providing an additional neutral interval (characteristic of subgroups involving 11, like 2.3.11.19). | |||
The four qualities of the 7-limit can be broken down into stable/unstable and bright/dark. The scheme used is the application of ADIN to systems like 22edo and 27edo; see [[Adaptive diatonic interval names#On "major" vs. "supermajor"]] for a further explanation. | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
! | |||
!Stable | |||
!Unstable | |||
|- | |||
!Bright | |||
|Nearmajor (warm, pleasant, comforting) | |||
|Supermajor (excited, animated, active) | |||
|- | |||
!Dark | |||
|Subminor (depressive, sad, bluesy) | |||
|Nearminor (angry, tense, stressful) | |||
|} | |||
These are, in fact, the basic "color qualities" provided by Kite: red (ru) = supermajor, yellow (yo) = nearmajor, green (gu) = nearminor, and blue (zo) = subminor. In [[keemic]] temperaments, they become equally spaced, incentivizing the metaphor of a "rainbow" of qualities promoted by Kite. | |||
== Full 7-limit JI scales == | |||
The scales are shown in [https://sw3.lumipakkanen.com/ Scale Workshop 3] format. Copy and paste into Scale Workshop 3 and you will be able to play the scale. | |||
=== Mode 5 === | |||
<pre> | |||
8:9:10:12:14:16 | |||
</pre> | |||
The simplest full 7-limit JI scale. | |||
=== /2 Mixolydian === | |||
<pre> | |||
16:18:20:21:24:27:28:32 | |||
</pre> | |||
=== /2 Ionian === | |||
<pre> | |||
16:18:20:21:24:27:30:32 | |||
</pre> | |||
=== Zil === | |||
Zil (from the temperament Godzilla which the zil series serves as a detempering of) is a series of 7-limit JI scales created from a [[generator sequence]] GS(8/7, 7/6, 8/7, 7/6, 8/7, 7/6, 8/7, 189/160). | |||
==== Zil[14] ==== | |||
The most discussed of the zil scales is zil[14] which is chiral depending on the chirality of the [[interleaving|interleaved]] 5-limit [[zarlino]] copies: | |||
RH zil[14] = [[cross-set]] of RH zarlino and 7/4 | |||
<pre> | |||
35/32; 9/8; 315/256; 5/4; 21/16; 45/32; 189/128; 3/2; 105/64; 27/16; 7/4; 15/8; 63/32; 2/1 | |||
</pre> | |||
LH zil[14] = cross-set of LH zarlino and 7/4 | |||
<pre> | |||
21/20; 9/8; 7/6; 6/5; 21/16; 4/3; 7/5; 3/2; 63/40; 8/5; 7/4; 9/5; 63/32; 2/1 | |||
</pre> | |||
==== Zil[24] ==== | |||
Zil[24] is achiral. It has a 4×3×2 structure in the 7-limit lattice. | |||
<pre> | |||
525/512; 135/128; 35/32; 9/8; 4725/4096; 75/64; 315/256; 5/4; 21/16; 675/512; 175/128; 45/32; 189/128; 3/2; 1575/1024; 25/16; 105/64; 27/16; 7/4; 225/128; 945/512; 15/8; 63/32; 2/1 | |||
</pre> | |||
=== Cross-set of 12:14:16:18:21:24 and 5/4 === | |||
A 10-note scale with an analogous structure to zil[14] (note that these are subsets of both zil[14] chiralities): | |||
RH | |||
<pre> | |||
35/32; 9/8; 5/4; 21/16; 45/32; 3/2; 105/64; 7/4; 15/8; 2/1 | |||
</pre> | |||
LH | |||
<pre> | |||
16/15; 8/7; 6/5; 4/3; 48/35; 3/2; 8/5; 12/7; 64/35; 2/1 | |||
</pre> | |||
=== A Mothra[36] detemper === | |||
GS(8/7 8/7 147/128 8/7 8/7 147/128 8/7 8/7 147/128 8/7 8/7 245/216)[36]; 4×3×3 generator structure | |||
<pre> | |||
33075/32768; 525/512; 135/128; 2205/2048; 35/32; 9/8; 147/128; 4725/4096; 75/64; 1225/1024; 315/256; 5/4; 1323/1024; 21/16; 675/512; 11025/8192; 175/128; 45/32; 735/512; 189/128; 3/2; 49/32; 1575/1024; 25/16; 6615/4096; 105/64; 27/16; 441/256; 7/4; 225/128; 3675/2048; 945/512; 15/8; 245/128; 63/32; 2/1 | |||
</pre> | |||
=== A Hemithirds[31] detemper === | |||
<pre> | |||
525/512; 21/20; 16/15; 35/32; 28/25; 8/7; 75/64; 25/21; 128/105; 5/4; 32/25; 21/16; 4/3; 175/128; 7/5; 10/7; 256/175; 3/2; 32/21; 25/16; 8/5; 105/64; 42/25; 128/75; 7/4; 25/14; 64/35; 15/8; 40/21; 1024/525; 2/1 | |||
</pre> | |||
=== An Aberschismic 34edo detemper === | |||
Contains multiple copies of [[aberrisma|aberrismic]] scales (diasem and blackdye); maps both 81/80 and 64/63 to one step. | |||
<pre> | |||
81/80; 21/20; 16/15; 35/32; 10/9; 9/8; 7/6; 189/160; 6/5; 315/256; 5/4; 35/27; 21/16; 4/3; 27/20; 7/5; 45/32; 35/24; 189/128; 3/2; 14/9; 63/40; 8/5; 105/64; 5/3; 27/16; 7/4; 16/9; 9/5; 28/15; 15/8; 35/18; 63/32; 2/1 | |||
</pre> | |||
Use 81/64 instead of 35/27 to get a Pyth[7] subset: | |||
<pre> | |||
81/80; 21/20; 16/15; 35/32; 10/9; 9/8; 7/6; 189/160; 6/5; 315/256; 5/4; 81/64; 21/16; 4/3; 27/20; 7/5; 45/32; 35/24; 189/128; 3/2; 14/9; 63/40; 8/5; 105/64; 5/3; 27/16; 7/4; 16/9; 9/5; 28/15; 15/8; 35/18; 63/32; 2/1 | |||
</pre> | |||
== Full 7-limit tempered scales == | |||
=== Superpyth[12] === | |||
Superpyth[12] is constructed by applying [[Superpyth]] temperament (2.3.5.7[22 & 27]; equivalently tempering out 64/63 and 245/243) to a 12-note chain of fifths. It contains Superpyth-tempered 5-limit [[blackdye]]. | |||
<pre> | |||
let L = 2187/2048 | |||
let s = 256/243 | |||
L;s;L;s;L;s;s;L;s;L;s;s; | |||
stack() | |||
27@ | |||
</pre> | |||
=== Pajara === | |||
[[Pajara]] can be used as an interpretation of 2L8s and 10L2s or their modifications. Pajara works best in [[22edo]]. | |||
==== Pajara[10] ==== | |||
<pre> | |||
let L = 10/9 | |||
let s = 16/15 | |||
s;s;L;s;s;s;s;L;s;s; | |||
stack() | |||
22@ | |||
</pre> | |||
==== Pentachordal Pajara[10] ==== | |||
<pre> | |||
let L = 10/9 | |||
let s = 16/15 | |||
s;s;s;s;s;L;s;s;s;L; | |||
stack() | |||
22@ | |||
</pre> | |||
==== Pajara[12] ==== | |||
<pre> | |||
let L = 16/15 | |||
let s = 25/24 | |||
L;L;L;L;L;s;L;L;L;L;L;s; | |||
stack() | |||
22@ | |||
</pre> | |||
==== Hexachordal Pajara[12] ==== | |||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
let L = 16/15 | |||
let s = 25/24 | |||
L;L;L;L;s;L;L;L;L;L;L;s; | |||
6/ | stack() | ||
22@ | |||
</pre> | |||
=== 7-limit diachrome === | |||
7-limit diachrome, an [[aberrismic]] scale, is constructed by taking a 6+6 (for achiral diachrome) or 7+5 (for chiral diachrome) fifth chain structure and tempering out [[5120/5103]]. The scales are shown below in 41edo tuning, but they work in any Aberschismic tuning such as [[46edo]] and [[53edo]]. | |||
==== 5sC ==== | |||
<pre> | |||
let L = 10/9 | |||
9/ | let m = 256/243 | ||
let s = 81/80 | |||
L;s;L;s;L;m;s;L;s;L;s;m; | |||
stack() | |||
41@ | |||
</pre> | |||
==== 5sL ==== | |||
<pre> | |||
let L = 10/9 | |||
let m = 256/243 | |||
let s = 81/80 | |||
L;s;L;s;L;m;L;s;L;s;m; | |||
stack() | |||
41@ | |||
</pre> | |||
==== 5sR ==== | |||
<pre> | |||
let L = 10/9 | |||
let m = 256/243 | |||
let s = 81/80 | |||
L;m;s;L;s;L;s;L;m;s;L;s; | |||
stack() | |||
41@ | |||
</pre> | </pre> | ||
=== Aberschismic whitedye === | |||
Aberschismic whitedye is constructed by taking a diatonic scale and offsetting it by 64/63~81/80, tempering out [[5120/5103]]. | |||
Shown below in 41edo tuning. | |||
<pre> | <pre> | ||
let L = 10/9 | |||
9 | let m = 28/27 | ||
let s = 81/80 | |||
L;s;L;s;L;s;m;s;L;s;L;s;m;s; | |||
stack() | |||
41@ | |||
</pre> | </pre> | ||
{{Cat|JI groups}} | |||
Latest revision as of 22:48, 22 May 2026
The 7-limit or the 2.3.5.7 subgroup is the subgroup of just intonation consisting of the intervals reachable by stacking 2/1, 3/2, 5/4, and 7/4. Important subsets of the 7-limit include the 7-odd-limit and 9-odd-limit.
Rank-3 subgroups:
The 7-limit includes the following odd harmonics below 256: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 15, 21, 25, 27, 35, 45, 49, 63, 75, 81, 105, 125, 135, 147, 175, 189, 225, 243, 245.
Temperaments
Some important rank-2 full 7-limit temperaments:
- Superpyth
- Septimal Porcupine
- Garibaldi
- Septimal Meantone
- Flattone
- Pajara
- Septimal Magic
- Mothra
- Rodan
- Valentine
- Orwell
- Augene
- Blackwood
- Sensi
The most important rank-3 full 7-limit temperaments are
- Aberschismic (41 & 46 & 53): equates the 2.3.5 and 2.3.7 formal commas, 81/80 and 64/63; medium-high accuracy.
- Marvel (19 & 22 & 41): equates 25/16 and 14/9; medium accuracy.
7-limit interval qualities
The 7-limit thirds, in order of stability / consonance in triads (from most to least consonant), are 5/4, 7/6, 6/5, 9/7. Note that 7-limit L/MCJI offers four distinct interval qualities, whereas 12edo and simpler tuning systems tend to offer only two. The mapping of 12edo's interval qualities to the 7-limit's is best understood by considering each 12edo interval as "splitting" into two distinct 7-limit intervals, rather than the alternative approach of retaining 12edo's interval qualities and providing an additional neutral interval (characteristic of subgroups involving 11, like 2.3.11.19).
The four qualities of the 7-limit can be broken down into stable/unstable and bright/dark. The scheme used is the application of ADIN to systems like 22edo and 27edo; see Adaptive diatonic interval names#On "major" vs. "supermajor" for a further explanation.
| Stable | Unstable | |
|---|---|---|
| Bright | Nearmajor (warm, pleasant, comforting) | Supermajor (excited, animated, active) |
| Dark | Subminor (depressive, sad, bluesy) | Nearminor (angry, tense, stressful) |
These are, in fact, the basic "color qualities" provided by Kite: red (ru) = supermajor, yellow (yo) = nearmajor, green (gu) = nearminor, and blue (zo) = subminor. In keemic temperaments, they become equally spaced, incentivizing the metaphor of a "rainbow" of qualities promoted by Kite.
Full 7-limit JI scales
The scales are shown in Scale Workshop 3 format. Copy and paste into Scale Workshop 3 and you will be able to play the scale.
Mode 5
8:9:10:12:14:16
The simplest full 7-limit JI scale.
/2 Mixolydian
16:18:20:21:24:27:28:32
/2 Ionian
16:18:20:21:24:27:30:32
Zil
Zil (from the temperament Godzilla which the zil series serves as a detempering of) is a series of 7-limit JI scales created from a generator sequence GS(8/7, 7/6, 8/7, 7/6, 8/7, 7/6, 8/7, 189/160).
Zil[14]
The most discussed of the zil scales is zil[14] which is chiral depending on the chirality of the interleaved 5-limit zarlino copies:
RH zil[14] = cross-set of RH zarlino and 7/4
35/32; 9/8; 315/256; 5/4; 21/16; 45/32; 189/128; 3/2; 105/64; 27/16; 7/4; 15/8; 63/32; 2/1
LH zil[14] = cross-set of LH zarlino and 7/4
21/20; 9/8; 7/6; 6/5; 21/16; 4/3; 7/5; 3/2; 63/40; 8/5; 7/4; 9/5; 63/32; 2/1
Zil[24]
Zil[24] is achiral. It has a 4×3×2 structure in the 7-limit lattice.
525/512; 135/128; 35/32; 9/8; 4725/4096; 75/64; 315/256; 5/4; 21/16; 675/512; 175/128; 45/32; 189/128; 3/2; 1575/1024; 25/16; 105/64; 27/16; 7/4; 225/128; 945/512; 15/8; 63/32; 2/1
Cross-set of 12:14:16:18:21:24 and 5/4
A 10-note scale with an analogous structure to zil[14] (note that these are subsets of both zil[14] chiralities):
RH
35/32; 9/8; 5/4; 21/16; 45/32; 3/2; 105/64; 7/4; 15/8; 2/1
LH
16/15; 8/7; 6/5; 4/3; 48/35; 3/2; 8/5; 12/7; 64/35; 2/1
A Mothra[36] detemper
GS(8/7 8/7 147/128 8/7 8/7 147/128 8/7 8/7 147/128 8/7 8/7 245/216)[36]; 4×3×3 generator structure
33075/32768; 525/512; 135/128; 2205/2048; 35/32; 9/8; 147/128; 4725/4096; 75/64; 1225/1024; 315/256; 5/4; 1323/1024; 21/16; 675/512; 11025/8192; 175/128; 45/32; 735/512; 189/128; 3/2; 49/32; 1575/1024; 25/16; 6615/4096; 105/64; 27/16; 441/256; 7/4; 225/128; 3675/2048; 945/512; 15/8; 245/128; 63/32; 2/1
A Hemithirds[31] detemper
525/512; 21/20; 16/15; 35/32; 28/25; 8/7; 75/64; 25/21; 128/105; 5/4; 32/25; 21/16; 4/3; 175/128; 7/5; 10/7; 256/175; 3/2; 32/21; 25/16; 8/5; 105/64; 42/25; 128/75; 7/4; 25/14; 64/35; 15/8; 40/21; 1024/525; 2/1
An Aberschismic 34edo detemper
Contains multiple copies of aberrismic scales (diasem and blackdye); maps both 81/80 and 64/63 to one step.
81/80; 21/20; 16/15; 35/32; 10/9; 9/8; 7/6; 189/160; 6/5; 315/256; 5/4; 35/27; 21/16; 4/3; 27/20; 7/5; 45/32; 35/24; 189/128; 3/2; 14/9; 63/40; 8/5; 105/64; 5/3; 27/16; 7/4; 16/9; 9/5; 28/15; 15/8; 35/18; 63/32; 2/1
Use 81/64 instead of 35/27 to get a Pyth[7] subset:
81/80; 21/20; 16/15; 35/32; 10/9; 9/8; 7/6; 189/160; 6/5; 315/256; 5/4; 81/64; 21/16; 4/3; 27/20; 7/5; 45/32; 35/24; 189/128; 3/2; 14/9; 63/40; 8/5; 105/64; 5/3; 27/16; 7/4; 16/9; 9/5; 28/15; 15/8; 35/18; 63/32; 2/1
Full 7-limit tempered scales
Superpyth[12]
Superpyth[12] is constructed by applying Superpyth temperament (2.3.5.7[22 & 27]; equivalently tempering out 64/63 and 245/243) to a 12-note chain of fifths. It contains Superpyth-tempered 5-limit blackdye.
let L = 2187/2048 let s = 256/243 L;s;L;s;L;s;s;L;s;L;s;s; stack() 27@
Pajara
Pajara can be used as an interpretation of 2L8s and 10L2s or their modifications. Pajara works best in 22edo.
Pajara[10]
let L = 10/9 let s = 16/15 s;s;L;s;s;s;s;L;s;s; stack() 22@
Pentachordal Pajara[10]
let L = 10/9 let s = 16/15 s;s;s;s;s;L;s;s;s;L; stack() 22@
Pajara[12]
let L = 16/15 let s = 25/24 L;L;L;L;L;s;L;L;L;L;L;s; stack() 22@
Hexachordal Pajara[12]
let L = 16/15 let s = 25/24 L;L;L;L;s;L;L;L;L;L;L;s; stack() 22@
7-limit diachrome
7-limit diachrome, an aberrismic scale, is constructed by taking a 6+6 (for achiral diachrome) or 7+5 (for chiral diachrome) fifth chain structure and tempering out 5120/5103. The scales are shown below in 41edo tuning, but they work in any Aberschismic tuning such as 46edo and 53edo.
5sC
let L = 10/9 let m = 256/243 let s = 81/80 L;s;L;s;L;m;s;L;s;L;s;m; stack() 41@
5sL
let L = 10/9 let m = 256/243 let s = 81/80 L;s;L;s;L;m;L;s;L;s;m; stack() 41@
5sR
let L = 10/9 let m = 256/243 let s = 81/80 L;m;s;L;s;L;s;L;m;s;L;s; stack() 41@
Aberschismic whitedye
Aberschismic whitedye is constructed by taking a diatonic scale and offsetting it by 64/63~81/80, tempering out 5120/5103.
Shown below in 41edo tuning.
let L = 10/9 let m = 28/27 let s = 81/80 L;s;L;s;L;s;m;s;L;s;L;s;m;s; stack() 41@
