Neutral second

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Neutral seconds are intervals with a size in between a whole tone and a semitone. They are one of the most distinctive-sounding yet versatile xenharmonic intervals, which makes them highly valuable.

Function

The large step of armotonic is always some sort of neutral second, which functions similar to both a whole tone and semitone.

A step of 13ed3 is a middle neutral second. It is notable for having an unusually good approximation of LCJI for a system generated by neutral seconds.

Porcupine neutral seconds are larger neutral seconds most commonly between 2\15 and 3\22 which, consistent with Porcupine temperament, split a sharp 6/5 in half and a flat 4/3 into thirds. This functionally makes them a very flat minor whole tone (T10/9), and are thus an easy way to make otherwise uninteresting progressions sound xenharmonic.

In larger edos, it's possible to have a similar tuning of intervals, but without Porcupine tempering. In the 100b val, the T10/9 is a slightly larger 168¢ in exchange for making the T81/80 48¢, a much more usable aberrisma than Porcupine typically offers.

Categorization

Neutral seconds are generally considered to be between 1\9 and 1\7, being half of some sort of minor third. If semifourths are included, they can be as narrow as 1\10.

Proposal: Ground's Neutral Second Categorization System

Import splitting table here.

Names Based on Interval Splitting (with Nearby Edo Intervals)
¢ Definition Name (accepted names are bold) Edo ¢ Error ¢
109.050 7/6 / √(6/5) Sepsemipental Semitone 1\11 109.091 0.041
111.731 16/15 Pental Semitone 3\32 112.500 0.769
119.443 15/14 Septimal Major Semitone 1\10 120.000 0.557
121.243 7/6 / 4√(7/5) Quadranseptimal Supraminor Second 1\10 120.000 -1.243
124.511 4√(4/3) Quadranpyth Supraminor Second 3\29 124.138 -0.373
128.298 14/13 Tridecimal Supraminor Second 3\28 128.571 0.273
133.435 √(7/6) Semiseptal Neutral Second 1\9 133.333 -0.102
138.573 13/12 Tridecimal Neutral Second 3\26 138.462 -0.111
140.391 5√(3/2) Quintanpyth Neutral Second 2\17 141.176 0.785
145.628 4√(7/5) Quadranseptimal Neutral Second 4\33 145.455 -0.174
150.637 12/11 Undecimal Neutral Second 1\8 150.000 -0.637
157.821 √(6/5) Semipental Neutral Second 5\38 157.895 0.074
165.004 11/10 Undecimal Submajor Second 4\29 165.517 0.513
166.015 3√(4/3) Trienpyth Submajor Second 4\29 165.517 -0.498
170.013 6/5 / 4√(7/5) Quadranseptimal Submajor Second 1\7 171.429 1.415
175.489 4√(3/2) Quadranpyth Major Second 6\41 175.610 0.121
182.206 6/5 / √(7/6) Pensemiseptal Major Second 5\33 181.818 -0.388
182.404 10/9 Minor Whole Tone 5\33 181.818 -0.586