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{{UserTag|g_|Ground|7766ff|110edo is approximately my standard for both Meantone septal diasem and Archy pental blackdye, with 110d 18:6:4 (50 patent 9:3:2) diasem and 110bc 16:9:4 blackdye. This exact tuning system is somewhat impractical to use, but the two scales share the same 5/4 and 9/7, which led to the temperament now called | {{UserTag|g_|Ground|7766ff|110edo is approximately my standard for both Meantone septal diasem and Archy pental blackdye, with 110d 18:6:4 (50 patent 9:3:2) diasem and 110bc 16:9:4 blackdye. This exact tuning system is somewhat impractical to use, but the two scales share the same 5/4 and 9/7, which led to the temperament now called Monarch. I believe that tuning major thirds accurately rather than minor thirds is generally more important to a pure sound. 110edo also happens to contain a very good [[Intergan]] generator, which splits the Meantone fourth in half, and makes for a good superset of Monarch.}} | ||
There are multiple ways to optimize | There are multiple ways to optimize Monarch. The Meantone diatonic major third 81/64[-3] is broadly a sharp 5/4, which has several benefits when used in Archy pental blackdye according to the above standards. It refines [[Aberrisma|aberrismic]] melodic properties, preserves the tuning of 7/5, and happens to coincide with a [[Delta-rational chord|+1+1]] major triad. The diatonic minor third cannot be tuned to 6/5 or sharper without an excessively flat fifth. | ||
On the other hand, the narrower capture zone of 9/7 and multiple non-2 primes in its factorization imply that it should be tuned more accurately. This may be done in two main ways for Meantone septal diasem: In 110edo, 9/7 is 81/64[+3], a straightforward Archy diatonic major third. In 86edo, 7/6 is tuned more accurately with 32/27[+3] due to the sharper 3. 9/7 is obtained by 3/2[-3] / (32/27[+3]), subtracting the Archy minor third from the Meantone fifth. This sacrifices 9/7 to improve sharp 7 and flat 11. | On the other hand, the narrower capture zone of 9/7 and multiple non-2 primes in its factorization imply that it should be tuned more accurately. This may be done in two main ways for Meantone septal diasem: | ||
* In 110edo, 9/7 is 81/64[+3], a straightforward Archy diatonic major third. This may be called '''1/4-1/4-comma Monarch'''. | |||
* In 86edo, 7/6 is tuned more accurately with 32/27[+3] due to the sharper 3. 9/7 is obtained by 3/2[-3] / (32/27[+3]), subtracting the Archy minor third from the Meantone fifth. This may be called '''1/4-1/3-comma Monarch''', which sacrifices 9/7 to improve sharp 7 and flat 11. | |||
=== Target tunings === | |||
This math will use the 2.3m.3a.5.7 subgroup, using variables to represent alteration ratios as done in [[Straddle primes|SRTT]]. | |||
* In both 1/4-1/4-comma and 1/4-1/3-comma, the DR math is the same, equating the Meantone major third to the Archy +1+1 major third: (3m)^4/64 = (3a/2-1)/2+1 | |||
* In 1/4-1/4-comma: and (3a)^4/64 = 9/7. This system simplifies to {48a+32 = 81m^4, 63a^4 = 64}. The solution gives fifths of 697.602¢ and 708.771¢. | |||
* In 1/4-1/3-comma: and 3m/2 / (32/(3a)^3) = 9/7. This system simplifies to {48a+32 = 81m^4, 63ma^3 = 64}. The solution gives fifths of 698.135¢ and 712.317¢. | |||
Revision as of 17:25, 25 July 2026
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Monarch is a rank-3 straddle temperament tempering out 81/80[-3] and 64/63[+3] in the 2.-3.+3.5.7 subgroup. The name comes from the combination of Meantone and Archy, the two linearly independent combined to make Monarch. Extensions and specific erac tunings make use of combining the two tunings of 3. The name implies that this is a temperament of greater scope or importance. It may also be called Archtone, making the same use of the "arch" affix.
Optimization
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110edo is approximately my standard for both Meantone septal diasem and Archy pental blackdye, with 110d 18:6:4 (50 patent 9:3:2) diasem and 110bc 16:9:4 blackdye. This exact tuning system is somewhat impractical to use, but the two scales share the same 5/4 and 9/7, which led to the temperament now called Monarch. I believe that tuning major thirds accurately rather than minor thirds is generally more important to a pure sound. 110edo also happens to contain a very good Intergan generator, which splits the Meantone fourth in half, and makes for a good superset of Monarch.
There are multiple ways to optimize Monarch. The Meantone diatonic major third 81/64[-3] is broadly a sharp 5/4, which has several benefits when used in Archy pental blackdye according to the above standards. It refines aberrismic melodic properties, preserves the tuning of 7/5, and happens to coincide with a +1+1 major triad. The diatonic minor third cannot be tuned to 6/5 or sharper without an excessively flat fifth.
On the other hand, the narrower capture zone of 9/7 and multiple non-2 primes in its factorization imply that it should be tuned more accurately. This may be done in two main ways for Meantone septal diasem:
- In 110edo, 9/7 is 81/64[+3], a straightforward Archy diatonic major third. This may be called 1/4-1/4-comma Monarch.
- In 86edo, 7/6 is tuned more accurately with 32/27[+3] due to the sharper 3. 9/7 is obtained by 3/2[-3] / (32/27[+3]), subtracting the Archy minor third from the Meantone fifth. This may be called 1/4-1/3-comma Monarch, which sacrifices 9/7 to improve sharp 7 and flat 11.
Target tunings
This math will use the 2.3m.3a.5.7 subgroup, using variables to represent alteration ratios as done in SRTT.
- In both 1/4-1/4-comma and 1/4-1/3-comma, the DR math is the same, equating the Meantone major third to the Archy +1+1 major third: (3m)^4/64 = (3a/2-1)/2+1
- In 1/4-1/4-comma: and (3a)^4/64 = 9/7. This system simplifies to {48a+32 = 81m^4, 63a^4 = 64}. The solution gives fifths of 697.602¢ and 708.771¢.
- In 1/4-1/3-comma: and 3m/2 / (32/(3a)^3) = 9/7. This system simplifies to {48a+32 = 81m^4, 63ma^3 = 64}. The solution gives fifths of 698.135¢ and 712.317¢.
