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For the tempering process, I will use [[erac]]s to show error accumulation. On a basic level, 25/21 * 19/15 is equated to >3/2, tempering out <190/189. This >3 is in the Archy range, so <<64/63 can be tempered out to add >7. At this point, tempering becomes less obvious. For 25/21 to be accurate, >>25 would be required to offset the very sharp Archy >>21. Assuming >>25 splits into (>5)^2, an accurate 19/15 would need an intolerably sharp >>19 to offset >>15. In my numerous attempts to turn Hibernal into a rank-3 2.3.5.7.19 temperament, I came to the conclusion that I have to make it straddle-5 to make any sense, with a roughly accurate 5 and an extra sharp >>5, equated to 19/15. It may look silly, 32edo actually works that way in my experience. This is my definitive 32edo temperament.
For the tempering process, I will use [[erac]]s to show error accumulation. On a basic level, 25/21 * 19/15 is equated to >3/2, tempering out <190/189. This >3 is in the Archy range, so <<64/63 can be tempered out to add >7. At this point, tempering becomes less obvious. For 25/21 to be accurate, >>25 would be required to offset the very sharp Archy >>21. Assuming >>25 splits into (>5)^2, an accurate 19/15 would need an intolerably sharp >>19 to offset >>15. In my numerous attempts to turn Hibernal into a rank-3 2.3.5.7.19 temperament, I came to the conclusion that I have to make it straddle-5 to make any sense, with a roughly accurate 5 and an extra sharp >>5, equated to 19/15. It may look silly, 32edo actually works that way in my experience. This is my definitive 32edo temperament.


I use the Oceanfront mapping of 13/10, resulting in a straddled 13 as well. The following table equates it to 22/17. The exact distribution of eracs varies, but is something like 2.>3.5.>>5.>7.>19.(11.<<13.13.17).
I use the Oceanfront mapping of 13/10, resulting in a straddled 13 as well. The following table equates it to 22/17. The exact distribution of eracs varies, but 2.>3.5.>>5.>7.>19 always works out, and may be extended to include 11.13-.13+.17 which reflects the unpredictability of tuning 13.
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A simple rank-2 reduction uses Superpyth mappings for 25/21 and 19/15 in place of 6/5 and 5/4, seen in edos like 86, 59, 32, and 69. Other useful edos may include 44, 47, 56, 64, 71, 76, 79, 83, 91, 100, 106, 108, and 111.
A simple rank-2 reduction uses Superpyth mappings for 25/21 and 19/15 in place of 6/5 and 5/4, seen in edos like 86, 59, 32, and 69.
 
Another basic reduction is equating (25/21)^4 to 2/1, making a quadter-octave temperament. Edos include 32, 44, 56, 76, 100, and 108.
 
Other useful edos may include 47, 71, 79, 83, 91, 106, and 111.


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Revision as of 14:14, 7 July 2026

Hibernal is a set of temperaments based on stacking a 25/21 minor third and 19/15 major third. 25 and 15 are both divisible by 5, resulting in 63:75:95, which is also delta-rational +3+5. The name is the adjective form of "winter" after the 32edo song that uses it extensively, Winter's Mortal Hope.

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I used Hibernal in 32edo for a while because I loved the melodic properties of its blackdye, without knowing why it sounded more concordant than expected. I initially guessed it was 19/16 and 14/11, but I tried slight variations of the minor and major triads and realized that I was hearing the well of 19/15 instead.

For the tempering process, I will use eracs to show error accumulation. On a basic level, 25/21 * 19/15 is equated to >3/2, tempering out <190/189. This >3 is in the Archy range, so <<64/63 can be tempered out to add >7. At this point, tempering becomes less obvious. For 25/21 to be accurate, >>25 would be required to offset the very sharp Archy >>21. Assuming >>25 splits into (>5)^2, an accurate 19/15 would need an intolerably sharp >>19 to offset >>15. In my numerous attempts to turn Hibernal into a rank-3 2.3.5.7.19 temperament, I came to the conclusion that I have to make it straddle-5 to make any sense, with a roughly accurate 5 and an extra sharp >>5, equated to 19/15. It may look silly, 32edo actually works that way in my experience. This is my definitive 32edo temperament.

I use the Oceanfront mapping of 13/10, resulting in a straddled 13 as well. The following table equates it to 22/17. The exact distribution of eracs varies, but 2.>3.5.>>5.>7.>19 always works out, and may be extended to include 11.13-.13+.17 which reflects the unpredictability of tuning 13.

19-limit Hibernal Stradle-5-13, JI tuning in cents (generators 95/63 and 19/15), primes highlighted
-2 -1 0 1 2
-4 1137 346 756 1165 374
-3 648 1057 267 676 1085
-2 159 569 978 187 596
-1 870 80 489 898 107
0 382 791 0 409 818
1 1093 302 711 1120 330
2 604 1013 222 631 1041
3 115 524 933 143 552
4 826 35 444 854 63

A simple rank-2 reduction uses Superpyth mappings for 25/21 and 19/15 in place of 6/5 and 5/4, seen in edos like 86, 59, 32, and 69.

Another basic reduction is equating (25/21)^4 to 2/1, making a quadter-octave temperament. Edos include 32, 44, 56, 76, 100, and 108.

Other useful edos may include 47, 71, 79, 83, 91, 106, and 111.