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'''Father''' (3 & 5) is a very inaccurate exotemperament that makes 3:4:5 equidistant, in other words equating 5/4 and 4/3 to a single "fourth-third" interval (which the name 'father' originates from). As a result, it serves as a simplification of 3:4:5-based ([[naiadic]]) harmony, in much the same way that [[Dicot (temperament)| | '''Father''' (3 & 5) is a very inaccurate exotemperament that makes 3:4:5 equidistant, in other words equating 5/4 and 4/3 to a single "fourth-third" interval (which the name 'father' originates from). As a result, it serves as a simplification of 3:4:5-based ([[naiadic]]) harmony, in much the same way that [[Dicot (temperament)|Dicot]] simplifies tertian harmony or [[Semaphore]] simplifies chthonic harmony. | ||
Due to tempering out such a large and simple interval as 16/15, there is no accurate tuning for | Due to tempering out such a large and simple interval as 16/15, there is no accurate tuning for Father. One structurally justifiable tuning, somewhat equivalent to tuning Dicot's 5/4 to a perfect neutral third, involves splitting a just 5/3 in half, resulting in a fourth-third of 442 cents (or a fifth-sixth of 758 cents). However, as with Dicot, it is somewhat preferable to lean the tuning of the generator towards one of the two simple intervals it represents - as flat as about 400 cents to favor 5/4 (as in 3edo), or as sharp as about 480 cents to favor 4/3 (as in 5edo). Another notable tuning is the golden tuning, about 458 cents, which sets the logarithmic ratio of 4/3 and 3/2 to the golden ratio. | ||
In the 5-limit, due to equating two reduced prime (sub)harmonics, it is found in a number of small edos; the simplest edo join, 1 & 2, is an extension of | In the 5-limit, due to equating two reduced prime (sub)harmonics, it is found in a number of small edos; the simplest edo join, 1 & 2, is an extension of Father, meaning Father can be arguably seen as the simplest 'real' 5-limit temperament. The edo join that gives the best impression of its tuning range is 3 & 5. | ||
Another point of interest in father is its moment-of-symmetry scales. It is likely that | Another point of interest in father is its moment-of-symmetry scales. It is likely that Father was originally defined in order to give a simple JI interpretation to the [[oneirotonic]] scale, although there are also Father tunings that generate [[checkertonic]]. | ||
== Extensions == | == Extensions == | ||
3 & 5, in the 7-limit, produces '' | 3 & 5, in the 7-limit, produces ''Mother'', which further equates the generator to 7/5. | ||
However, the perhaps more 'reasonable' extension structurally is to observe that 9/7 is the [[mediant]] of 5/4 and 4/3, and therefore equate the fourth-third to 9/7 as well, producing a [[ | However, the perhaps more 'reasonable' extension structurally is to observe that 9/7 is the [[mediant]] of 5/4 and 4/3, and therefore equate the fourth-third to 9/7 as well, producing a [[Trienstonian]] and [[Sensamagic]] temperament. However, due to the [[tuning instability]] of 9/7, this is not supported by any patent vals besides 5. | ||
== Comparison to other temperaments == | == Comparison to other temperaments == | ||
Father is distinct from temperaments such as [[ | Father is distinct from temperaments such as [[Blackwood]] (5 & 15), [[Trienstonian]] (5 & 18), and [[Fendo]] (5 & 7, 2.3.13/5) that equate other major thirds to 4/3 and that are generally more accurate. It is also distinct from more accurate [[oneirotonic]] temperaments such as [[A-team]] that are not generated by 4/3, and from the temperament-agnostic [[Golden generator|golden tuning]]. | ||
Revision as of 01:04, 6 March 2026
Father (3 & 5) is a very inaccurate exotemperament that makes 3:4:5 equidistant, in other words equating 5/4 and 4/3 to a single "fourth-third" interval (which the name 'father' originates from). As a result, it serves as a simplification of 3:4:5-based (naiadic) harmony, in much the same way that Dicot simplifies tertian harmony or Semaphore simplifies chthonic harmony.
Due to tempering out such a large and simple interval as 16/15, there is no accurate tuning for Father. One structurally justifiable tuning, somewhat equivalent to tuning Dicot's 5/4 to a perfect neutral third, involves splitting a just 5/3 in half, resulting in a fourth-third of 442 cents (or a fifth-sixth of 758 cents). However, as with Dicot, it is somewhat preferable to lean the tuning of the generator towards one of the two simple intervals it represents - as flat as about 400 cents to favor 5/4 (as in 3edo), or as sharp as about 480 cents to favor 4/3 (as in 5edo). Another notable tuning is the golden tuning, about 458 cents, which sets the logarithmic ratio of 4/3 and 3/2 to the golden ratio.
In the 5-limit, due to equating two reduced prime (sub)harmonics, it is found in a number of small edos; the simplest edo join, 1 & 2, is an extension of Father, meaning Father can be arguably seen as the simplest 'real' 5-limit temperament. The edo join that gives the best impression of its tuning range is 3 & 5.
Another point of interest in father is its moment-of-symmetry scales. It is likely that Father was originally defined in order to give a simple JI interpretation to the oneirotonic scale, although there are also Father tunings that generate checkertonic.
Extensions
3 & 5, in the 7-limit, produces Mother, which further equates the generator to 7/5.
However, the perhaps more 'reasonable' extension structurally is to observe that 9/7 is the mediant of 5/4 and 4/3, and therefore equate the fourth-third to 9/7 as well, producing a Trienstonian and Sensamagic temperament. However, due to the tuning instability of 9/7, this is not supported by any patent vals besides 5.
Comparison to other temperaments
Father is distinct from temperaments such as Blackwood (5 & 15), Trienstonian (5 & 18), and Fendo (5 & 7, 2.3.13/5) that equate other major thirds to 4/3 and that are generally more accurate. It is also distinct from more accurate oneirotonic temperaments such as A-team that are not generated by 4/3, and from the temperament-agnostic golden tuning.
