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32/27
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!Interval
An interval inflected by formal commas from 32/27
!{{UserTag|SS|Vector|cebaff|Interval size}}
 
!{{UserTag|SS|Vector|cebaff|Interval category}}
3\12, representing 32/27
!Quasi-diatonic
 
!Just notation
3\12, representing an interval inflected by formal commas from 32/27
|-
 
|32/27
3\12, in general
|class="prime19"|Pythagorean minor third
 
|class="prime19"|minor third
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12
|class="prime19"|minor third
 
|class="prime19"|minor third
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, provided it is mapped as the third degree of a heptatonic scale
|-
 
|An interval inflected by formal commas from 32/27
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, excluding Pythagorean intervals other than 32/27
| -
 
|class="prime19"|minor third
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, provided it is inflected by formal commas from 32/27
|''(out of scope)''
 
|class="prime19"|minor third
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, provided it is a tempered version of an interval inflected by formal commas from 32/27
|-
 
|3\12, representing 32/27
The smaller version of the third degree of a JI-agnostic diatonic scale
|class="prime19"|MOSdiatonic minor third
 
|class="prime19"|minor third
The smaller version of the third degree of a JI-agnostic diatonic MOS
|class="prime19"|minor third
 
|class="prime19"|minor third
The smaller version of the third degree of a ternary (or greater) diatonic scale, even if it is not mapped to something inflected by formal commas from 32/27
|-
 
|3\12, representing an interval inflected by formal commas from 32/27
The smaller version of the third degree of any heptatonic scale
|class="prime19"|minor third
 
|class="prime19"|minor third
The smaller version of the third degree of any heptatonic MOS
|''(out of scope)''
 
|class="prime19"|minor third
The larger version of the third degree of antidiatonic, when mapped as 32/27
|-
 
|3\12, in general
The larger version of the third degree of antidiatonic, in general
|class="prime19"|minor third
 
|3/12
The smaller version of the fourth degree of a decatonic scale
|''(out of scope)''
 
| ''(out of scope)''
The fourth degree of a dodecatonic scale
|-
 
|Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12
The smaller version of the third degree of any scale
|class="prime19"|minor third
|~3/12
|''(out of scope)''
| ''(out of scope)''
|-
|Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, provided it is mapped as the third degree of a heptatonic scale
|class="prime19"|minor third
|~3/12
|''(out of scope)''
| ''(out of scope)''
|-
|Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, excluding Pythagorean intervals other than 32/27
|class="prime19"|minor third
|~3/12
|''(out of scope)''
| ''(out of scope)''
|-
|Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, provided it is inflected by formal commas from 32/27
|class="prime19"|minor third
|class="prime19"|minor third
|''(out of scope)''
|class="prime19"|minor third
|-
|Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, provided it is a tempered version of an interval inflected by formal commas from 32/27
|class="prime19"|minor third
|class="prime19"|minor third
|''(out of scope)''
|class="prime19"|minor third
|-
|The smaller version of the third degree of a JI-agnostic diatonic scale
| -
|class="prime19"|minor third
|class="prime19"|minor third
|''(out of scope)''
|-
|The smaller version of the third degree of a JI-agnostic diatonic MOS
|class="prime19"|MOSdiatonic minor third
|class="prime19"|minor third
|class="prime19"|minor third
|''(out of scope)''
|-
|The smaller version of the third degree of a ternary (or greater) diatonic scale, even if it is not mapped to something inflected by formal commas from 32/27
| -
|class="prime19"|minor third
|class="prime19"|minor third
| ''(out of scope)''
|-
|The smaller version of the third degree of any heptatonic scale
|minor 2-step
|minor 2-step
|class="prime19"|minor third
| ''(out of scope)''
|-
|The smaller version of the third degree of any heptatonic MOS
|minor 2-step
|minor 2-step
|class="prime19"|minor third
| ''(out of scope)''
|-
|The larger version of the third degree of antidiatonic, when mapped as 32/27 and tuned near 400c
|major third
|major third
|major third
|class="prime19"|minor third
|-
|The larger version of the third degree of antidiatonic when tuned near 400c, in general
|major third
|major third
|major third
| ''(out of scope)''
|-
|The smaller version of the fourth degree of a decatonic scale
|class="prime19"|decatonic minor third
|class="prime19"|minor third
|minor fourth
|''(out of scope)''
|-
|The fourth degree of a dodecatonic scale
| -
| class="prime19" |minor third
|fourth
|''(out of scope)''
|-
|The smaller version of the third degree of any scale
|minor 2-step
|minor 2-step
| class="prime19" |minor third
|''(out of scope)''
|-
|The b3 degree
|''(out of scope)''
|''(out of scope)''
|''(out of scope)''
|''(out of scope)''
|}


== Miscellaneous disputes ==
== Miscellaneous disputes ==

Latest revision as of 08:02, 28 October 2026

This page serves as a summary of the differences in terminology used by different composers. It is not an invitation to add fuel to these debates, rather it is a tool to ease communication.

Accidentals across notation systems

Formal commas

Accidental Vector Ben Johnston FJS HEJI Color Sagittal
Name Symbol Symbol Symbol Phonetic coding Symbol Name Phonetic coding Symbol
81/80 Raise 5-sharp + /5 (An up arrow on a natural sign) gu g 5-comma pai /|
Lower 5-flat - 5 (A down arrow on a natural sign) yo y pao \!
64/63 Raise 7-sharp (not used in BJ) /7 Γ ru r 7-comma tai |)
Lower 7-flat 7 L zo z tao !)

General purpose

Accidental KISS Diamond-MOS Kite's ups and downs
Symbol Name Symbol Symbol
MOSchroma Raise # am & (Not used in Kite)
Lower b at @
Subchroma Raise (Not used in KISS) (Not used in Diamond-MOS)
Lower
Edostep Raise
Lower

Section heading

What counts as a minor third, how do people categorize the things that aren't, and how would they refer to other senses of 'minor third'?

TODO: make this into a table with different people's thoughts

Interval
SS
Interval size
SS
Interval category
Quasi-diatonic Just notation
32/27 Pythagorean minor third minor third minor third minor third
An interval inflected by formal commas from 32/27 - minor third (out of scope) minor third
3\12, representing 32/27 MOSdiatonic minor third minor third minor third minor third
3\12, representing an interval inflected by formal commas from 32/27 minor third minor third (out of scope) minor third
3\12, in general minor third 3/12 (out of scope) (out of scope)
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12 minor third ~3/12 (out of scope) (out of scope)
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, provided it is mapped as the third degree of a heptatonic scale minor third ~3/12 (out of scope) (out of scope)
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, excluding Pythagorean intervals other than 32/27 minor third ~3/12 (out of scope) (out of scope)
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, provided it is inflected by formal commas from 32/27 minor third minor third (out of scope) minor third
Any interval in the vicinity of 3\12, provided it is a tempered version of an interval inflected by formal commas from 32/27 minor third minor third (out of scope) minor third
The smaller version of the third degree of a JI-agnostic diatonic scale - minor third minor third (out of scope)
The smaller version of the third degree of a JI-agnostic diatonic MOS MOSdiatonic minor third minor third minor third (out of scope)
The smaller version of the third degree of a ternary (or greater) diatonic scale, even if it is not mapped to something inflected by formal commas from 32/27 - minor third minor third (out of scope)
The smaller version of the third degree of any heptatonic scale minor 2-step minor 2-step minor third (out of scope)
The smaller version of the third degree of any heptatonic MOS minor 2-step minor 2-step minor third (out of scope)
The larger version of the third degree of antidiatonic, when mapped as 32/27 and tuned near 400c major third major third major third minor third
The larger version of the third degree of antidiatonic when tuned near 400c, in general major third major third major third (out of scope)
The smaller version of the fourth degree of a decatonic scale decatonic minor third minor third minor fourth (out of scope)
The fourth degree of a dodecatonic scale - minor third fourth (out of scope)
The smaller version of the third degree of any scale minor 2-step minor 2-step minor third (out of scope)
The b3 degree (out of scope) (out of scope) (out of scope) (out of scope)

Miscellaneous disputes