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The '''5-limit''' (aka '''pental''') consists of all ratios in [[just intonation]] whose ratios contain no prime factors greater than 5; for example [[5/4]], [[16/15]], and [[81/80]]. The 5-limit is considered the basis of western harmony, with the ratios of the [[5-odd-limit]] being considered consonances. The main consonant chords of the 5-limit are the [[4:5:6]] major triad and the [[10:12:15]] minor triad. The smallest [[EDO]]s that approximate these triads within 20 cents are [[12edo|12]], [[15edo|15]], [[19edo|19]], [[22edo|22]], etc. | The '''5-limit''' (aka '''pental''') consists of all ratios in [[just intonation]] whose ratios contain no prime factors greater than 5; for example [[5/4]], [[16/15]], and [[81/80]]. The 5-limit is considered the basis of western harmony, with the ratios of the [[5-odd-limit]] being considered consonances. The main consonant chords of the 5-limit are the [[4:5:6]] major triad and the [[10:12:15]] minor triad. The smallest [[EDO]]s that approximate these triads within 20 cents are [[12edo|12]], [[15edo|15]], [[19edo|19]], [[22edo|22]], etc. | ||
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The 5-limit is the unique full prime-limit in which a rank-2 temperament is defined by tempering out a single comma. Historical [[meantone]] temperament was chiefly 5-limit, hence the conception of a regular temperament as tempering out some set of commas. | The 5-limit is the unique full prime-limit in which a rank-2 temperament is defined by tempering out a single comma. Historical [[meantone]] temperament was chiefly 5-limit, hence the conception of a regular temperament as tempering out some set of commas. | ||
A large number of temperaments are defined in the 5-limit. This is partially a result of the legacy of the Xenharmonic Wiki, wherein the 5-limit was considered the 'default' subgroup for tempering before extensions and other subgroup restrictions were considered. But also, due to its non-clustering characteristic, there are justifications for many more temperament archetypes in the 5-limit than in groups like 2.3.7. | A large number of temperaments are defined in the 5-limit. This is partially a result of the legacy of the Xenharmonic Wiki, wherein the 5-limit was considered the 'default' subgroup for tempering before extensions and other subgroup restrictions were considered. But also, due to its non-clustering characteristic, there are justifications for many more temperament archetypes in the 5-limit than in groups like [[2.3.7 subgroup|2.3.7]]. | ||
Some important rank-2 5-limit temperaments: | Some important rank-2 5-limit temperaments: | ||
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* [[Würschmidt]] | * [[Würschmidt]] | ||
* [[Negri]] | * [[Negri]] | ||
* [[Augmented]] | * [[Augmented (temperament)|Augmented]] | ||
* [[Diminished]] | * [[Diminished (temperament)|Diminished]] | ||
== JI scales == | == JI scales == | ||
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L;s;m;L;L;s;m; | L;s;m;L;L;s;m; | ||
stack() | stack() | ||
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=== Duodene === | |||
The duodene scale forms a 4 (in the 3 dimension) × 3 (in the 5 dimension) parallelogram in the 2.3.5 lattice. It is considered the canonical 5-limit JI detempering of 12edo. | |||
<pre> | |||
16/15 | |||
9/8 | |||
6/5 | |||
5/4 | |||
4/3 | |||
45/32 | |||
3/2 | |||
8/5 | |||
5/3 | |||
9/5 | |||
15/8 | |||
2/1 | |||
</pre> | </pre> | ||
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</pre> | </pre> | ||
==== Pinedye ==== | ==== Pinedye ==== | ||
1sC (achiral): | |||
<pre> | |||
let l = 10/9 | |||
let m = 27/25 | |||
let s = 81/80 | |||
l;l;s;l;l;m;l;m; | |||
stack() | |||
</pre> | |||
1sR (chiral): | |||
<pre> | |||
let l = 10/9 | |||
let m = 27/25 | |||
let s = 81/80 | |||
l;l;m;l;l;m;l;s; | |||
stack() | |||
</pre> | |||
1sL (chiral): | |||
<pre> | |||
let l = 10/9 | |||
let m = 27/25 | |||
let s = 81/80 | |||
l;l;m;l;l;s;l;m; | |||
stack() | |||
</pre> | |||
{{Cat|JI groups}} | {{Cat|JI groups}} | ||
Latest revision as of 13:08, 15 April 2026
- Not to be confused with the 5-odd-limit.
The 5-limit (aka pental) consists of all ratios in just intonation whose ratios contain no prime factors greater than 5; for example 5/4, 16/15, and 81/80. The 5-limit is considered the basis of western harmony, with the ratios of the 5-odd-limit being considered consonances. The main consonant chords of the 5-limit are the 4:5:6 major triad and the 10:12:15 minor triad. The smallest EDOs that approximate these triads within 20 cents are 12, 15, 19, 22, etc.
The 5-limit includes the following odd harmonics below 256: 1, 3, 5, 9, 15, 25, 27, 45, 75, 81, 125, 135, 225, 243.
The 5-limit is associated with the 7-form, though this is a weaker match than the 2.3.7 subgroup and the 5-form. (The fundamental 5-limit diatonic temperament, Meantone, is not a 7-cluster temperament but rather is tuned optimally near a golden generator, unlike with Archy). The main other 5-limit form is the 12-form, as in Meantone[12], Augmented[12], Diminished[12], and Diaschismic[12].
Temperaments
The 5-limit is the unique full prime-limit in which a rank-2 temperament is defined by tempering out a single comma. Historical meantone temperament was chiefly 5-limit, hence the conception of a regular temperament as tempering out some set of commas.
A large number of temperaments are defined in the 5-limit. This is partially a result of the legacy of the Xenharmonic Wiki, wherein the 5-limit was considered the 'default' subgroup for tempering before extensions and other subgroup restrictions were considered. But also, due to its non-clustering characteristic, there are justifications for many more temperament archetypes in the 5-limit than in groups like 2.3.7.
Some important rank-2 5-limit temperaments:
- Porcupine
- Schismic
- Kleismic
- Meantone
- Diaschismic
- Magic
- Tetracot
- Würschmidt
- Negri
- Augmented
- Diminished
JI scales
Scales are shown in Scale Workshop 3 format. Copy and paste into Scale Workshop 3 and you will be able to play the scale.
Zarlino
Right-hand Zarlino:
let L = 9/8 let m = 10/9 let s = 16/15 L;m;s;L;m;L;s; stack()
Left-hand Zarlino:
let L = 9/8 let m = 10/9 let s = 16/15 m;L;s;L;m;L;s; stack()
Tetrachordal pental diatonic
A modified Zarlino, similar to Turkish Rast
let L = 9/8 let m = 10/9 let s = 16/15 L;m;s;L;L;m;s; stack()
Minor version:
let L = 9/8 let m = 10/9 let s = 16/15 L;s;m;L;L;s;m; stack()
Duodene
The duodene scale forms a 4 (in the 3 dimension) × 3 (in the 5 dimension) parallelogram in the 2.3.5 lattice. It is considered the canonical 5-limit JI detempering of 12edo.
16/15 9/8 6/5 5/4 4/3 45/32 3/2 8/5 5/3 9/5 15/8 2/1
Aberrismic theory
- Main article: Aberrisma#Quasi-diatonic aberrismic scales
Blackdye
The fundamental pental aberrismic scale is blackdye.
let L = 10/9 let m = 16/15 let s = 81/80 s;L;m;L;s;L;m;L;s;L; stack()
Pinedye
1sC (achiral):
let l = 10/9 let m = 27/25 let s = 81/80 l;l;s;l;l;m;l;m; stack()
1sR (chiral):
let l = 10/9 let m = 27/25 let s = 81/80 l;l;m;l;l;m;l;s; stack()
1sL (chiral):
let l = 10/9 let m = 27/25 let s = 81/80 l;l;m;l;l;s;l;m; stack()
