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'''Ploidacot''' is a naming scheme for rank-2 tuning/temperament structures based on the number of periods per octave and the number of periods and independent generators per fifth, created by [[Praveen Venkataramana]].
'''Ploidacot''' is a naming scheme for rank-2 tuning/temperament structures based on the number of [[Period|periods]] per octave and the number of periods and independent [[Generator|generators]] per fifth, created by [[Praveen Venkataramana]].


''TODO: specify the special case for "haploid"''
The general form is '''x'''-ploid '''y'''-sheared '''z'''-cot, where '''x''' is the number of periods in the octave, and where '''y''' periods ''down'' and '''z''' generators ''up'' are needed to reach ~3/2. Equivalently, '''z''' generators make 3/2 plus '''y'''/'''x''' octaves.


The general form is '''x'''-ploid '''y'''-sheared '''z'''-cot, where '''x''' is the number of periods in the octave, and where '''y''' periods ''down'' and '''z''' generators ''up'' are needed to reach ~3/2. '''x''' and '''z''' typically expressed as numerical prefixes (e.g. mono, di, tri, tetra) instead of regular numbers, and '''y'''-sheared is usually replaced with the number '''y''' in Greek gematria (e.g. 1 = alpha, 2 = beta, 3 = gamma, 10 = iota). A temperament with a ~3/2 of an exact number of periods is ''acot'' or ''0-cot''. In this situation, the shear amount tends to be left out of the ploidacot name, but it can be seen as -1 times however many periods there are in the fifth.
The numbers '''x''' and '''z''' may be expressed as numerical prefixes (e.g. mono, di, tri, tetra) instead of regular numbers, and "'''y'''-sheared" may be replaced with the number '''y''' in Greek gematria (e.g. 1 = alpha, 2 = beta, 3 = gamma, 10 = iota). Due to the unfamiliarity of Greek numerals to many people, on this wiki they are heavily discouraged after epsilon. {{Adv|This is because in the Greek numeral system, position 6 is ''wau'', not the expected ''zeta''.}} We use ''omega'' to refer to ('''z''' - 1)-shearing, corresponding to ~4/3 for single-period-octave (haploid) temperaments. When '''x''' = 1, ''haploid'' is used, not ''monoploid'', and it can optionally be omitted.


A temperament with a ~3/2 of an exact number of periods is ''acot'' or ''0-cot''. In this situation, the shear amount tends to be left out of the ploidacot name, but it can be seen as -1 times however many periods there are in the fifth.
Proposed non-2/1, non-3/2 generators:
* ''-gem'': 7/3
* ''-seph'': 5/4
* ''-mech'': 7/4
== Examples ==
== Examples ==
Blackwood has a -octave period with the perfect fifth at exactly 3\5, making it a ''pentaploid (-3-sheared) acot'' temperament.
Blackwood has a fifth-octave period with the perfect fifth at exactly 3\5, making it a ''pentaploid (-3-sheared) acot'' temperament.


Meantone and Schismic have a full-octave period and a perfect fifth generator, making them ''(monoploid) monocot'' temperaments.
Meantone and Schismic have a full-octave period and a perfect fifth generator, making them ''(haploid) monocot'' temperaments.


Diaschismic can be interpreted as having a half-octave period and a perfect fifth generator, so it is a ''diploid monocot'' temperament.
Diaschismic can be interpreted as having a half-octave period and a perfect fifth generator, so it is a ''diploid monocot'' temperament.
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== Relationship to pergens ==
== Relationship to pergens ==
''TODO: present omega as official''
[[Pergen]]s are an alternative notation system to ploidacot which notates 3-limit intervals in terms of diatonic scale degrees, created by [[Kite Giedraitis]]. While ploidacot describes ''how'' to get to ~3/2, pergens describe what 3-limit interval is divided into how many parts to get the generator. To use an above example, Harry, which is a ''diploid delta-hexacot'' temperament, would have the pergen ''(P8/2, P19/6)'', which simplifies to ''(P8/2, P4/6)''. Note the use of the perfect fourth.
 
[[Pergen]]s are an alternative notation system to ploidacot which notates 3-limit intervals in terms of diatonic scale degrees, created by [[Kite Giedraitis]]. While ploidacot describes ''how'' to get to ~3/2, pergens describe what 3-limit interval is divided into how many parts to get the generator. To use an above example, Harry, which is a ''diploid delta-hexacot'' temperament, would have the pergen ''(P8/2, P19/6)'', which simplifies to ''(P8/2, P4/6)''. Note the use of the perfect fourth. This does not appear to be in the "official" ploidacot standard, although [[Osmium]] has proposed the use of ''omega'' to refer to -1-shearing, corresponding to ~4/3 for single-period-octave (monoploid) temperaments.

Latest revision as of 16:35, 13 May 2026

Ploidacot is a naming scheme for rank-2 tuning/temperament structures based on the number of periods per octave and the number of periods and independent generators per fifth, created by Praveen Venkataramana.

The general form is x-ploid y-sheared z-cot, where x is the number of periods in the octave, and where y periods down and z generators up are needed to reach ~3/2. Equivalently, z generators make 3/2 plus y/x octaves.

The numbers x and z may be expressed as numerical prefixes (e.g. mono, di, tri, tetra) instead of regular numbers, and "y-sheared" may be replaced with the number y in Greek gematria (e.g. 1 = alpha, 2 = beta, 3 = gamma, 10 = iota). Due to the unfamiliarity of Greek numerals to many people, on this wiki they are heavily discouraged after epsilon. This is because in the Greek numeral system, position 6 is wau, not the expected zeta. We use omega to refer to (z - 1)-shearing, corresponding to ~4/3 for single-period-octave (haploid) temperaments. When x = 1, haploid is used, not monoploid, and it can optionally be omitted.

A temperament with a ~3/2 of an exact number of periods is acot or 0-cot. In this situation, the shear amount tends to be left out of the ploidacot name, but it can be seen as -1 times however many periods there are in the fifth.

Proposed non-2/1, non-3/2 generators:

  • -gem: 7/3
  • -seph: 5/4
  • -mech: 7/4

Examples

Blackwood has a fifth-octave period with the perfect fifth at exactly 3\5, making it a pentaploid (-3-sheared) acot temperament.

Meantone and Schismic have a full-octave period and a perfect fifth generator, making them (haploid) monocot temperaments.

Diaschismic can be interpreted as having a half-octave period and a perfect fifth generator, so it is a diploid monocot temperament.

Harry has a half-octave period and splits ~6/1 into 6 equal generator steps, so ~3/2 can be reached by going 4 periods down from there. This makes it a diploid delta-hexacot temperament.

Relationship to pergens

Pergens are an alternative notation system to ploidacot which notates 3-limit intervals in terms of diatonic scale degrees, created by Kite Giedraitis. While ploidacot describes how to get to ~3/2, pergens describe what 3-limit interval is divided into how many parts to get the generator. To use an above example, Harry, which is a diploid delta-hexacot temperament, would have the pergen (P8/2, P19/6), which simplifies to (P8/2, P4/6). Note the use of the perfect fourth.