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		<title>Lériendil: /* What to use for the cutoff for referring to just intervals by name? */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;What to use for the cutoff for referring to just intervals by name?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Vector: /* What to use for the cutoff for referring to just intervals by name? */ new section</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== What to use for the cutoff for referring to just intervals by name? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&amp;#039;ve identified a few categories of just intervals, and my takes on each of them:&lt;br /&gt;
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- Names by prime limit (&amp;quot;septimal major third&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;classical minor sixth&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;septimal minor semitone&amp;quot;) - avoid&lt;br /&gt;
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- Names of Pythagorean intervals (&amp;quot;Pythagorean major third&amp;quot;) - use, but preferably &amp;quot;diatonic&amp;quot; when discussing temperaments&lt;br /&gt;
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- Any name of an interval with an absurdly complex ratio (&amp;quot;mabilisma&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Pythagorean wolf fifth&amp;quot;) - use&lt;br /&gt;
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- Any name of an interval that&amp;#039;s treated as a comma - use&lt;br /&gt;
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- Names by commatic alteration (&amp;quot;diptolemaic chromatic semitone&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Alpharabian artoneutral third&amp;quot;) - ????&lt;br /&gt;
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- Names of just intervals that specify that they are &amp;quot;chromatic&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;diatonic&amp;quot; semitones beyond the 5-limit, or use the enharmonic interval categories in their names (&amp;quot;large undecimal diminished octave&amp;quot;) - ????&lt;br /&gt;
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What are your thoughts on each of my takes here, and what other categories would you include?&lt;br /&gt;
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-- [[User:Vector|Vector]] ([[User talk:Vector|talk]]) 09:16, 11 December 2025 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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